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[DhtmlXQ_open]B03 中炮对鸳鸯炮[/DhtmlXQ_open]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment16_21]||||此局面在张强与闫文清的《布局骗招与对策》中被认为是红优势局面，但是黑被牵制，被动受攻局面。但是后续用旋风分析，黑是稍优势局面：[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_45]||||||||黑稍好[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_31]||||||||||||这里弃兵救马不成立，大概应该马五进七[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_50]||||||||黑没事[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_37]||||||||||红这么选择会失子[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_48]||||||红如车65，则黑76，黑优[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_9]||||||以下选自王天一执黑对某天天业7[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_14]||||||2012王家瑞对王天一[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_10]||||||||||1972胡荣华对徐天利[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_14]||||||这里黑3个选择云库打分差不多：||12 1 0[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_18]云库：||车2+4： 1||车2+6： -110||||旋风：||||类型 层数 分数 时间 主要变例||3 22 27 730.06 车２进４ 马七进五 炮５平８ 车二平一 卒３进１ 兵六平七 车２平３ 车一进一 象７进５ 车一平四 士４进５ 车四进七 后炮退１ 车九平八 前炮进２ 车四退四 后炮平７ 仕六进五 马３进４ 车四平六 马４退６ 车八进四 炮８退３ 炮五平七 马７进６ 车六平四[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_22]||||||||||||黑优[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_21]||||||||更老的教材推荐的着法，虽然精巧，但红结果并不便宜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_22]||||||||||||黑被动[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_27]||||||||||即使黒车不丢，整体形势也比较被动[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_22]||||||||||进卒希望红炮打马[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_24]||||||||现在打马形势就不一样了，一会黒车被捉可以退2[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_34]||||||||黒车逃了，得子[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_27]||||||红弃子抢攻，但可被化解[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_34]||||||黑丝毫不惧[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_33]||||||||如先叫杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_33]||||||先进兵阻止黑马5+4[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_39]||||||||||很多老棋谱演化到这里认为黑很难抵挡，事实上黑有巧妙的化解[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_41]||||准备杀中[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11]||||||||红想保持先手只此一手。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]||||云库：||兵5+1 95||兵7+1 95||马8+7 95||车2+6 28[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_16]||||||不好[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_18]||||||||||准备打死车[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_17]||||||||||后续黑不错[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_11]三件套推荐着法，但是||||云库显示，红||炮八平七 -8分||车二进六 96 最强||||这一步不好非常出乎意料[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_10]||||||||不好[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment153_15]||||||1972胡荣华先胜徐天利[/DhtmlXQ_comment153_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment153_27]||||||||红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment153_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_44]||||||||||||？[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_29]||||||||||||红大优[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_22]||||||||||||限制红马5+7[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_23]||||||||||红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_31]||||||||||红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_29]||||||||||红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment153_14]||||||||以后均为红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment153_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_14]||||||||||以后均为红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_14]||||||||大赛黑方采用最多的着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_15]||||||||这是大赛红方胜率极高的下法[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment58_18]||||||||暂时未知[/DhtmlXQ_comment58_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment59_39]||||||||||||红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment59_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_31]||||||||||红棋好下[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_43]||||||||||红胜势[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_43]||||||||||红大优[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_14]||||||||||后续变化表明打中兵不好[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_35]||||||黑无子可动。红大优[/DhtmlXQ_comment60_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_20]||||||显然不好[/DhtmlXQ_comment60_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_27]||||||||红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_20]||||||||||红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_45]||||||||||红大优[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_14]业余实战的下法。后续变化显示不好。[/DhtmlXQ_comment60_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_17]||||||||||还原[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_35]||||||||||红多子优[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_24]||||||||不敢逃马，否则中象被打[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_24]||||||||？被打中象了吧[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_37]||||||||||红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_30]||||||||红少士，稍好一点[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_21]||||||||红选择先弃后取，否则黑攻势强大[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_11]||||||||||大赛走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_12]||||||||大赛黑方采用较多[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_31]||||||||||||||如果直接吃马，黑有马3-4[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_47]||||||||||||红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_21]||||||||||||红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_31]||||||||||红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76_16]||||||||||||||大赛唯一下法[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76_21]||||||||||弃子下法[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment80_21]||||||||||||较稳健[/DhtmlXQ_comment80_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_53]||||||||||红多子胜势[/DhtmlXQ_comment82_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_24]||||||黑不能打马[/DhtmlXQ_comment82_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76_27]||||||||||红略好[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment80_29]||||||||||红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment80_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_13]||||||||曹林对于幼华[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment85_24]||||||||||黑反夺先手[/DhtmlXQ_comment85_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment85_15]||||||||||||不好[/DhtmlXQ_comment85_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment86_21]||||||||||||黑无法平中炮。红多子优势[/DhtmlXQ_comment86_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_27]||||||||||||红好[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment83_25]||||||||红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment83_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_22]||||||||||黑可以抗衡[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_14]||||||||||2018时凤兰先负黎德志[/DhtmlXQ_comment88_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_29]||||||||红得回失子，大优[/DhtmlXQ_comment88_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_23]||||||||||先出车是关键。实战走相五进三不好[/DhtmlXQ_comment88_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment90_33]||||||||红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment90_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment91_33]||||||||||||红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment91_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_15]||||||||||赵攀伟先胜***[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_27]||||||||改进下法，实战走车2-4，黑卒6平5[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_33]||||||||||红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment92_13]||||||||||||未知[/DhtmlXQ_comment92_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment93_12]||||||||刘俊达先胜孙勇征[/DhtmlXQ_comment93_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment93_26]||||||||红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment93_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_14]||||||||||||这个局面后面非常复杂，大赛红黑胜率相当[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment96_21]||||||||||||大体相当[/DhtmlXQ_comment96_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment123_21]||||||||||||红稍优[/DhtmlXQ_comment123_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment100_39]||||||||这是软件下法，容易导致和棋。不推荐[/DhtmlXQ_comment100_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99_47]||||||||||红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment99_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99_20]||||||||！[/DhtmlXQ_comment99_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment102_37]||||||||||红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment102_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment103_31]||||||||||||红稍好[/DhtmlXQ_comment103_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment130_31]||||||||||红少两大子，但大优[/DhtmlXQ_comment130_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment105_19]||||||||||||||不好[/DhtmlXQ_comment105_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment132_31]||||||红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment132_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_16]||||||||||||亚洲赛的对局[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment108_21]||||||||||||改进着法，比实战炮8+2犀利[/DhtmlXQ_comment108_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment108_37]||||||||红大优。黑不敢打中兵[/DhtmlXQ_comment108_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment110_33]||||||||红大优[/DhtmlXQ_comment110_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment111_21]||||||||||||不宜[/DhtmlXQ_comment111_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment113_27]||||||||||||红一车3[/DhtmlXQ_comment113_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment112_33]||||||||||红小优[/DhtmlXQ_comment112_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment92_10]云库：||炮2-1 -95||马8+7 -111[/DhtmlXQ_comment92_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment115_28]||||||车92 6||炮36 -139[/DhtmlXQ_comment115_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment115_14]||||||||云库 ||炮8+2 11||炮8-1 39[/DhtmlXQ_comment115_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment120_24]||||||||||平稳[/DhtmlXQ_comment120_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment120_16]||||||炮87 15 ||车98 -1[/DhtmlXQ_comment120_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment121_30]||||||||||一将一闲[/DhtmlXQ_comment121_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment121_27]||||||||红不能炮8-1打马，否则黑好[/DhtmlXQ_comment121_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_13]云库||马8+7 97||兵3+1 26 ||兵5+1 22||车23　-13[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment95_16]||河口抢夺，一般不要让||||||马6+4 -98||马6+7 -137[/DhtmlXQ_comment95_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment95_28]||||||||平稳[/DhtmlXQ_comment95_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment95_15]||||||||||之后双方平稳[/DhtmlXQ_comment95_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_18]||||||||闪击抓炮[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment125_25]||||||||||||不好[/DhtmlXQ_comment125_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_17]||||||云库 ||马7+6 123||炮5-1 83[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment124_33]红略优||||云库 91[/DhtmlXQ_comment124_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment124_34]||||||||重要[/DhtmlXQ_comment124_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_16]微妙。好处之一是使黑没有了队3兵的手段。比赛没人下过？||||云库||马6+7 -122||炮86 -157||炮26 -191||卒7+1 -244||炮27 -313[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_31]红大优||云库 404[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_28]||||||||假着[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_15]大赛采用最多下法，意在保持复杂变化||||云库：||马7+6 98||车9+1 83 ||兵3+1 75||车23 61||炮54 59||车24 28||炮5+4 27||炮8+2 14||||这个盘面是黑的分水岭，对局面理解很重要[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment128_43]||||红优231[/DhtmlXQ_comment128_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment129_18]||||||-70[/DhtmlXQ_comment129_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment128_16]||||||||弃子未能赚回足够攻势[/DhtmlXQ_comment128_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment130_22]||||||||||||云库||车12 -169||炮67 -228[/DhtmlXQ_comment130_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment104_27]||||||红打不好[/DhtmlXQ_comment104_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment131_31]||红172||平稳[/DhtmlXQ_comment131_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment98_17]赵国荣先胜***||||下一步黑的上象方向决定红进攻方向[/DhtmlXQ_comment98_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment132_28]||||||车2+6 -208||车98　-267[/DhtmlXQ_comment132_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment107_33]||||||黑尴尬[/DhtmlXQ_comment107_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment135_38]||||||||红大优[/DhtmlXQ_comment135_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment134_35]||||||||红295[/DhtmlXQ_comment134_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_38]||||||||这个变化具体再细拆。[/DhtmlXQ_comment101_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_43]||||||||||红365[/DhtmlXQ_comment101_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_22]||||||马3+5 -181||象3+5 -193||象7+5 -202[/DhtmlXQ_comment101_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment139_35]||||||红732[/DhtmlXQ_comment139_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment136_24]||||||现在不能上左象||象3+5 -204||象7+5　-683[/DhtmlXQ_comment136_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment142_31]||||||||||||红优势立即消失[/DhtmlXQ_comment142_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_37]||||||红90[/DhtmlXQ_comment143_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_38]||||||||||至此红略优，但不易开展。下一步切不可红马7+8[/DhtmlXQ_comment143_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_39]||||||||？[/DhtmlXQ_comment143_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_48]||||黑大优562[/DhtmlXQ_comment143_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment98_16]炮86不好的原因在于，红炮5+4后如果黑上3象，可炮平3，既保护自己3路又对黑底象牵制，利用黑车炮拥塞把黑车牵制在底线；||如果黑上7象，红有弃子抢攻手段。云库说红好，具体再拆。||红打中兵黑最好应对马3+5[/DhtmlXQ_comment98_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment136_22]||||马3+5 -181||象3+5 -193||象7+5 -202[/DhtmlXQ_comment136_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment135_22]||||马3+5 -181||象3+5 -193||象7+5 -202[/DhtmlXQ_comment135_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10]黑如走象7+5不好，见赵玮胜郝继超||||云库||炮2-1 -86||马8+7 -95||象3+5 -141||象7+5 -179[/DhtmlXQ_comment10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment144_13]||||||||车23 88||车24 15[/DhtmlXQ_comment144_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment144_34]||||||||巧手[/DhtmlXQ_comment144_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment144_43]||||||否则马6+8杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment144_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment144_44]||||||||||黑优 222[/DhtmlXQ_comment144_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment144_33]直接退车败着。红-140.[/DhtmlXQ_comment144_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment146_33]兵7+1 129||车2-5 -140||||应该先兑一波炮，再退车，效果截然不同[/DhtmlXQ_comment146_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment146_39]红多子但被压制，云库红99分[/DhtmlXQ_comment146_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment146_60]||||||||红106[/DhtmlXQ_comment146_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment144_12]||||||||这是弃子抢攻思路[/DhtmlXQ_comment144_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment147_29]||||||||车2-1 81||车23　65[/DhtmlXQ_comment147_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment148_54]||||||||对攻复杂，这个盘面红200分[/DhtmlXQ_comment148_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment147_40]||||||||均势。复杂。[/DhtmlXQ_comment147_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment145_13]||||||||||过于平淡，以至于开局库都没有现成的[/DhtmlXQ_comment145_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment145_29]||||||||||||长兑[/DhtmlXQ_comment145_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment147_39]||||||不可退车保，否则炮24，红炮死了[/DhtmlXQ_comment147_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment150_17]||||||||||黑胜势[/DhtmlXQ_comment150_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment151_18]||||||||黑稍好。45[/DhtmlXQ_comment151_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment149_13]||||||马8+7 110||兵5+1 -49[/DhtmlXQ_comment149_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment149_28]||||||||||炮23 -198||炮8+2 -230[/DhtmlXQ_comment149_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12]云库：||炮28 -87 -> -113||卒3+1 -109 ->-160||马8+7 -141||炮25 -150||云库不能理解的地方：现在如果挺的是红7兵不是中兵，那么马8+7比炮28高50分；如果是现在红挺中兵而不是7兵，那么炮28比马8+7多50分，为啥？||||因为黑炮8闪击时红挺起的中兵提供更多被攻击价值。另外黑28的闪击在红未上左马时更有威力，因为有突然亮右车捉炮压马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment154_25]||||||红进兵不好 63[/DhtmlXQ_comment154_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25]||||||兵7+1 148 ||兵5+1 63||炮6+1 32||炮6-3 31[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28]||||||||||切不可炮7+1，否则被打双车[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14]||||||炮28 -137||炮25 -151||卒3+1 -200||象7+5 -208||想3+5 -221[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment156_15]||||||||和棋倾向[/DhtmlXQ_comment156_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment156_36]||||||||红163[/DhtmlXQ_comment156_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_16]大赛采用较多||||+2 -129||-1 -176[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_22]||||||||与之前炮28分支一样了[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_23]||||||车34 142||车32 9[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_30]||||||||继续兑车 -1||卒3+1 -87[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_12]云库||马8+7 -96||炮28 -144||||红中兵未起，河口炮可起马看住，黑炮的闪击收益太微。||总结黑下2路炮的闪击所得：1 把红右车打回原位； 2 调整红右车压马炮的位置；3 闪击红中兵；4 闪出右车[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_10]||||||卒3+1 -69||马8+7 -95||炮2-1 -140[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_9]||||||容易后续平稳[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment104_22]||||||||云库||车12 -169||炮67 -228[/DhtmlXQ_comment104_22]
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